tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1464309008858992954.post4375826385331832763..comments2023-08-10T05:13:10.024-07:00Comments on The Ekklesia Project: Resurrection and TortureZach Kincaidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12893369435666365181noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1464309008858992954.post-62699334445703991072009-05-01T12:03:00.000-07:002009-05-01T12:03:00.000-07:00Christianity Today Live Blog posted an article thi...Christianity Today Live Blog posted an article this morning - "Evangelicals and Torture: A new study says white evangelicals are most likely to justify torture. What shall we make of that?" <br /><br />http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2009/05/evangelicals_an.htmlNola Byrum Boezemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17074383239715007193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1464309008858992954.post-49790370761190123552009-05-01T05:21:00.000-07:002009-05-01T05:21:00.000-07:00I used torture as a test case in a classroom discu...I used torture as a test case in a classroom discussion yesterday, asking students whether they would refuse to serve communion to a member of the congregation whose job was to torture. Most were unwilling to consider excommunicating even the unrepentant torturer. This suggests to me that in addition to the ways apathy and patriotism shape this issue, there is also a rampant individualism that refuses accountability, discernment and discipline--even in the church.<br />posted by Brent LaythamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1464309008858992954.post-5816219438573227982009-04-30T19:33:00.000-07:002009-04-30T19:33:00.000-07:00Speaking of the Church's wholesale failure...the l...Speaking of the Church's wholesale failure...the latest survey:<br /><br />http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/index.htmlMTLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13892079109119302588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1464309008858992954.post-30698123602398016852009-04-30T19:26:00.000-07:002009-04-30T19:26:00.000-07:00I agree, Kyle, that the silence of the Church on t...I agree, Kyle, that the silence of the Church on this matter is profoundly disheartening. But it's hardly surprising. And you are right, Gordon, that it's very easy to turn our backs (and our eyes) to all this. <br /><br />While advocating for a truth commission, etc. is one way to give voice to our convictions, the deeper issue, I think, is the Church's rather wholesale failure to form Christians in such ways that our life together is its own critique of such abuses of power. But its hard to assume the stance of critique--of witness--if the Church's own norms and "values" differ little from those of the U.S. of A.Debra Dean Murphynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1464309008858992954.post-24225640575483142792009-04-28T20:22:00.000-07:002009-04-28T20:22:00.000-07:00Thanks for your note and the connection between to...Thanks for your note and the connection between torture, Jesus broken body, and resurrection. But where , where, where, in the USA is the "Church" on the issue? From the silence I hear, our "Church" is on the side of the torturers. Help me out here, Help me with a call to embody this connection: a truth and reconciliation commission, indictments and prosecusion for those who ordered this. Help me with something more than sitting safely in my living room reading nice words...Kyle Weirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12448386464904691314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1464309008858992954.post-30682480058441965812009-04-22T23:45:00.000-07:002009-04-22T23:45:00.000-07:00thanks
i appreciate your connection between the go...thanks<br />i appreciate your connection between the gospel and the current issue of torture. It is all too easy to turn our back, and we must not.Rev Gordon Bannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01917409607699658997noreply@blogger.com